Kyle
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I think that is the difference between having a full frame and having a unibody. I think you're almost always going to total a unibody, and having a full frame allows you to resist impacts better, thought you might be a bit more sore due to the energy transfer.
We have had ours off for a year now and do not ever plan on installing again. We are running 37s and body lift plus do a lot of towing and highway miles to the trails.After reading up a few months ago about our stock front ends and how stiff the stock sway-bar is, I decided to do a little experiment and remove mine. As I know many of you probably advise very strongly against this on the street, but I have been driving with it off for 2 months now and have no plans on reinstalling it. That thing was WAY too stiff.
The truck handles high speed highway travel very well, almost un-noticeably different to be honest, and handles panic stops and evasive maneuvers much better than expected. From what I've experienced, body roll during evasive maneuvers whilst heading downhill on a slope, is not butt-puckering scary and I think that is all thanks to the very limited amount of wheel travel on our stock rigs. While putting around town, small bumps and pot holes encountered by only one wheel, are traversed over very smoothly with much less body roll and jolt due to the suspension being able to cycle truly independently. The ride quality overall feels MUCH better, but in my particular h3, my rear end feels a bit too stiff but I think I can blame that on 100k old springs...
Although I haven't been able to take it to any serious dirt to experience the better articulation offroad, I have bombed a few gravel/dirt roads and really do like the smoother ride.
I figured that I would volunteer myself as a guinea pig, as my curiosity was too strong to smother, so I just wanted to let you all know of my findings and experience.
Now, I absolutely do not want to encourage anyone to remove any sort of safety equipment from their vehicle, and I do expect some of you to still strongly advise against it. But if you are curious and would like to try it out, I invite you to try and report back with your thoughts:cheers:
After reading up a few months ago about our stock front ends and how stiff the stock sway-bar is, I decided to do a little experiment and remove mine. As I know many of you probably advise very strongly against this on the street, but I have been driving with it off for 2 months now and have no plans on reinstalling it. That thing was WAY too stiff.
The truck handles high speed highway travel very well, almost un-noticeably different to be honest, and handles panic stops and evasive maneuvers much better than expected. From what I've experienced, body roll during evasive maneuvers whilst heading downhill on a slope, is not butt-puckering scary and I think that is all thanks to the very limited amount of wheel travel on our stock rigs. While putting around town, small bumps and pot holes encountered by only one wheel, are traversed over very smoothly with much less body roll and jolt due to the suspension being able to cycle truly independently. The ride quality overall feels MUCH better, but in my particular h3, my rear end feels a bit too stiff but I think I can blame that on 100k old springs...
Although I haven't been able to take it to any serious dirt to experience the better articulation offroad, I have bombed a few gravel/dirt roads and really do like the smoother ride.
I figured that I would volunteer myself as a guinea pig, as my curiosity was too strong to smother, so I just wanted to let you all know of my findings and experience.
Now, I absolutely do not want to encourage anyone to remove any sort of safety equipment from their vehicle, and I do expect some of you to still strongly advise against it. But if you are curious and would like to try it out, I invite you to try and report back with your thoughts:cheers:
You can but it won't work...I tried mine and they flat out the spring hanger against the frame...sort of like they do with already by themselves.Can I Use my Rancho rear springs for SOA? Since I have the sagging tears I may move to a SOA come spring time. I hear adding a leaf can still result back to a sagging rear....
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Dammit, I no longer have my stock springs.You can but it won't work...I tried mine and they flat out the spring hanger against the frame...sort of like they do with already by themselves.
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Installed new battery and terminals (didn't wire the digital terminals yet).
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Hmmm, I would like to try this. You have NOT influenced me in any sort of way [emoji6]
Now how did you take the front off? I've been thinking about doing the rear for a while especially because it whacks itself into my exhaust
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The front sway bar has two mounts on the underside of the frame with (I believe four?) bolts. Once you get those out, remove the sway bar links from the lower control arms with (one bolt per side) and you're done! I don't think I would ever consider removing the rear sway bar. If its hitting your exhaust, you might as well cut that out instead![]()
I went with XScorpion Digital terminals from Amazon. Note if you decide to go with the digital terminals on the negative side you need to get an adapter to make up for the space.Just installed one of those bad boys myself............Almost went with an Optima (cheaper) but figured it was time to try an Odyssey.
Autozone had to special order it.
Easy peasy install and good fitment.
Still need to replace the terminals and do some wiring.
What terminals did you go with?
Yep that's them. Broke the 2 passenger front ones and driver side came out fine. New bolts should be here today.Been there. You're talking about the bolts on the bottom of the frame rails (front sway bar)...and also on the rear axle (rear sway bar)...right? These bolts break off in the hole if you look at them wrong. Total beyotch to fix.
The ones on the rear axle can usually be spun all the way thru by using PB Blaster and vise grips on the broken piece (from the backside of the mount).
The fronts however cannot be retrieved from the backside, so plan on the usual "drill...break off an extractor...drill again...re-tap to a larger thread" trick. I've never been able to salvage them.
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I replaced my sorry plastic tanked radiator and replaced it with a complete aluminum radiator. I went thru