What comes after the Hummer?

[GreatDaneHummer]

Not sure if this was ever brought up or has been discussed but I like many others im sure have thought about what to do next when parts get even worse to find and eventually like all things my Hummer dies for good. Almost brings me to cry just thinking about it.

First and foremost I really do not feel very strongly towards owning a Jeep. They are perfectly fine off road but they are no Hummer period. Toyota 4 Runner does have a lot of possibilities much like a Hummer H3 but is not as supported in the after market community as I would like and with smaller wheel openings many only go up to 33" tires even with a 3" lift etc. I really enjoy my 35" tires and would love to have 37" on my next vehicle.

Besides these two due to trucks just being too big for 80% of trails out there WHAT IS LEFT? Does anyone know what their next step will be or is a Jeep really all the off road community has to purchase?

Thanks!

 

[High Five H2]

you can find parts for just about any year vehicle. for modifications, the hummer aftermarket already sucks, so you have to get things custom made. I don't think it will ever be completely impossible to keep hummers running. people still building jeeps and trucks from the 40s, no reason why we can't keep ours running.

 

[ABNTROOP]

Yeah. But keeping older rigs running is a lot easier. I don't know. I sure don't see any other solid options.

 

[GreatDaneHummer]

2017 Defender 90. Solid axles (check), Diesel engine (check), Front and rear lockers (Check). I think I just found it.

 

[JPaul]

If I didn't have a Hummer, and didn't go for a Jeep, I'd probably go for a Toyota Land Cruiser (like an 80 series or something), I've seen some really awesome builds with those. I really like the style that Ronny Dahl from http://www.4-wheeling-in-western-australia.com/ has (been watching his Youtube videos recently). Looks like an awesome overlanding type rig.

Not only will you have a pretty good time getting parts, but you can also find Toyota trucks with diesel's in them. However GM has the new Colorado diesel coming out which would make a great point to start I think if you want to keep it in the family. Pulling the bed off and making a custom box like Ronny has would probably be pretty slick.

In the end though, I think unless you get a Honda civic, a Ford mustang, Chevy Camaro, Chevy/Ford/Dodge truck, etc, etc, you are going to have problems with parts supply, especially when it comes to aftermarket stuff.

Case in point, when I first had my Dodge Neon (1998) I had no problems finding good aftermarket parts for it. But as time went by it fell out of favor, especially with the introduction of the SRT-4, and aftermarket parts became harder to come by. Bonus though was if anyone was selling their stuff you could get it for pretty cheap, just like I'm finding with the H3.

It's the burden you have to bear with being unique and not following the crowd. You have something that is different, but at a cost of having to work harder/more to add to/improve/customize it. At this point pretty much everything has been done with Jeep's, Honda's, Chevy/Ford trucks, etc. Hummer's are still unique by their very nature.

 

[GreatDaneHummer]

This is pretty good looking I must admit.

 

[skeptic]

Based on what is out there today, if I couldn't have a Hummer it would probably a lifted Tahoe, but I wouldn't rule out going back to a Jeep. I could also see myself with a Colorado ZR2 if they bring one out and it's similar to the concept vehicle. Honestly though, I really hope GM comes out with the rumored Wrangler competitor. Either way, I plan to keep my H2 for at least a few more years so hopefully someone comes out with something that I want before I'm forced to settle. What I don't want to do is find myself driving around in a beat up 20+ year old H2 talking about the glory days and being too stubborn to buy something else.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

What comes after Hummer? death, dishonor, shame...

 

[06 H3]

What considers death? Broken axles? Engine with a hole in the oil pan? If that's death mines been revived numerous times

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

What considers death? Broken axles? Engine with a hole in the oil pan? If that's death mines been revived numerous times

That's not dead, that's mostly dead :giggle:

 

[3Hummers]

I don't think parts to keep them running will be the issue. Interior parts, trim, etc will become difficult to replace. Like I have said before, if you can buy parts for a 57 Corvette to restore it you will be able to keep your Hummer going.

 

[06 H3]

That's true, would companies hop on board and make replacement parts? Guys like LMC truck make basically everything interior and exterior trim for old tricks

 

[rsc]

I had a 95 ZX-7, in 2004 I bought an engine off a guy in New Orleans selling off his stash. The dealership was very happy to give it a valve adjustment in Nov 2004. A few months later in the spring I wanted something minor done and the refused to work on it. Apparently 10 years was too old and it was obsolete. Ended up parking it and selling it shortly after. I see the H3 being the same way where only a few people will be willing to work on them. As it is, I know of one shop already that won't touch any more Hummers.

I don't see ANY new vehicles that compare with an H3. Waiting on GMC to build a worthy successor.

 

[GreatDaneHummer]

The Colorado is way over priced. Easy to do one up for $36k. Its just not worth the money. $36k into rebuilding my H3 would be better spent I think.

 

[CaseyS]

There will soon be enough cheap h3 bodies out there that project vehicles will be the next phase of the Hummer life cycle.

 

[Hunner]

Long live the Hummer H3, which is really just a GM product.

I agree body parts will be the proprietary parts to have to search for. Not sure what the inventory is on those.

 

[GreatDaneHummer]

What would people react to something like how ICON rebuilt the FJ using premium parts for a modern example of the Hummer H3 more off road capable focused? Solid axles from factory, diesel engine etc? I know the ICON FJ's are expensive though, $100k range. Not sure if the Hummer H3 market would still be interested at that price range.

 

[rsc]

What would people react to something like how ICON rebuilt the FJ using premium parts for a modern example of the Hummer H3 more off road capable focused? Solid axles from factory, diesel engine etc? I know the ICON FJ's are expensive though, $100k range. Not sure if the Hummer H3 market would still be interested at that price range.

For that price I would buy a Mustang GT350 AND a GT500.

 

[rascole]

The Colorado is way over priced. Easy to do one up for $36k. Its just not worth the money. $36k into rebuilding my H3 would be better spent I think.

and how much is that LR90? $55k to start? WTF. LR reliability has been average at best lately. $36k for a loaded Colorado + $20k for upgrades will run circles around LR.

 

[GreatDaneHummer]

Na, my buddy over there said it will be more like $45k start and $55k HSE model. Think about what the H3 updated and sold today would cost? Many say upwards of the same $45K-50K range. All things auto are over priced right now.

 

[GreatDaneHummer]

Look at it this way if you can indulge me:

2007 Trailblazer MSRP: $30,210 LT 4x4 // 2009 Trailblazer MSRP: $35,770 LT 4x4 (SS $39,330)
2007 Hummer H3 MSRP: $29,405 Base 4x4 // 2009 Hummer H3 MSRP: $33,390 Base 4x4 (Alpha $41,705)

2016 Chevy Traverse MSRP: $36,900 LT 4x4 (LTZ $45,040)
2015 Jeep Wrangler Hard Rock MSRP: $46,345

2016 Hummer H3 MSRP: $40,000 Base 4x4 (Alpha $47,000) ??

At the pace off road vehicles are increasing in price it is very realistic to see the D90 to be price at $55k with options. Welcome to inflation on a global scale.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

I bet the pricing on the D90 will be north of 100k.

My next vehicle will be a pickup - probably a Colorado or Canyon diesel.

 

[Big2dabank]

My next vehicle will be a daily driver, either a small pickup or suv. The H2 will be kept for trail duty and will be kept alive by whatever means necessary. I honestly don't see a replacement in the current market of 4x4's. Even if it's a total loss in an accident, I would still keep it with a salvage title. It is truly a unique vehicle.

 

[Bigunit]

X2. That's how I feel about my T.

 

[rsc]

Look at it this way if you can indulge me:

2007 Trailblazer MSRP: $30,210 LT 4x4 // 2009 Trailblazer MSRP: $35,770 LT 4x4 (SS $39,330)
2007 Hummer H3 MSRP: $29,405 Base 4x4 // 2009 Hummer H3 MSRP: $33,390 Base 4x4 (Alpha $41,705)

2016 Chevy Traverse MSRP: $36,900 LT 4x4 (LTZ $45,040)
2015 Jeep Wrangler Hard Rock MSRP: $46,345

2016 Hummer H3 MSRP: $40,000 Base 4x4 (Alpha $47,000) ??

At the pace off road vehicles are increasing in price it is very realistic to see the D90 to be price at $55k with options. Welcome to inflation on a global scale.

The price of new cars has ballooned beyond the rate of inflation over the past sevaral years. While the inflation index has been right around 1.5% over the past couple years, the price of new cars has been much higher. In 1972, the MSRP for an entry level Ford Pinto was $2078. Using an inflation calculator you can see that with a 40 year cumulative rate of inflation that would equal about $12,200. The cheapest you can buy a car in the U.S. today is about $16,250 MSRP (Chevy Sonic, Toyota Yaris, Mazda 2, Scion IQ and Kia Rio). A comparable contemporary of the Ford Pinto would be the Ford Fiesta at an MSRP of $15,885, much higher than the inflation adjusted 1972 price of $12,200. With only a $761 markup over dealer invoice, the dealer is not gouging the consumer so where does the extra fat come from? You cannot argue that today's more stringent safety requirements have increased the price as even the Pinto was struggling to meet more stringent EPA regulations and crash-worthiness standards of the time. CEO's wanting more? Line workers pay? Failed streamlining or a failure at going LEAN? Or perhaps the average middle class income has stagnated? All I know is that I will not be buying a $40k or $50K new 4x4.

(Did anybody notice that the base H3's price jumped from $29,500 in 2006 to $33,400 in 2010? That's a 9% jump in just 4 years.)