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Rancho Redux Part 4: Shocks

06 H3

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HOLY ****! I cant contain myself....the ride quality difference is amazing. Ok now thats out of the way I can explain.

An issue brought to my attention was that the rancho shock was hitting up against the bumpstop bracket which put load on a shock from the side. Thats no good. It will blow your shock.

The only reason I call this a redux is because to date everyone with rancho lifts on this forum are stuck with rancho shocks. So rancho redux 1 was rancho ucp, #2 was rear sagging springs #3 was steering rack bolt interference and now #4.

Anyways, The rancho shocks are already subpar IMO. I ran with them since January of 2011 (IIRC) They are the original shocks I put on with the lift kit. I blew those shocks out probably 2 years ago. I kept running them until I had enough. My brother and I were doing some wheeling a week ago, high speed dirt road kinda stuff and I came off a small jump, didnt fully get it airborne but upon landing my front end kept bouncing and bouncing, extremely dangerous! It caught me off guard pretty bad. So that was it...

So now what? Rancho shocks are the only "lift" shock for the lift I have. No one else makes a shock for the 4in over stock category. Most are for leveling kits. I found a guy on instagram running bilsteins and a rancho kit. He said 4wp did it, he had no clue what the compressed and extended length were all he said was that he thought they were from a silverado.

So time to get searching! The rancho shocks are a measly 17in compressed 19in extended...HORRIFIC!

So I started searching for every silverado shock via part #. I then cross referenced the part # to the bilstein catalog which had specs on every shock.

The Silverado shock shares the same type of clevis for the lower shock mount and the stud on the top.

I found these.

http://cart.bilsteinus.com/productsearch/24-185950

With an extended length of 21.38 the a arm would hit the droop stop before topping out, which will help prevent damage.

With a collapsed length of 14.15 the bumpstop will bottom out way before full compression and best of all they are valved with the weight of a V8 in mind, I have a winch hanging off so I wanted something stiffer.

Now what about the bumpstop bracket hitting the shock? Same thing was going to occur with the bilsteins so it was time to take out the grinder. I grinded down the bumpstop bracket from the side so now there is plenty of clearance for the shock to avoid taking load from the side.

I also threw in some brand new oem bumpstops while I was there, I picked them up used never actually used though from davidh3 a year ago. I drove and holy ****! It stays planted now, no more bouncing and bull****. Its a new vehicle to me now!!!!

The rear still wants to lean, the shock are too soft for the rear especially with the spring over the spring sit flatter and are softer. I will be getting hand-me-down bilsteins from my brother as he just picked up some kings.

I was getting pretty sick and tired of my IFS but this just brought it back to life! KOH testing this weekend!



grinded down





 

digglesworth

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I'm amazed with what you've done to improve the kit... Hopefully others will be able to benefit from all your leg work... Awesome man.
 

06 H3

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Thanks. This one wasn't major but I figured if I could give a part # to other it will take out the guess work and a few min of grinding makes it worthwhile. Now I have one less then to worry about on killing my shocks
 

digglesworth

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It'd really be awesome to put a parts list together of everything needed to do the lift with a soa and upgraded bilsteins and other minor tweaks....
 

amrg

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Is it possible to use shock extenders made for GMC pickup thats for 1 to 3" lift application and apply it here? Thinking of a way to make the bilstein 5160s work on a rancho lift.
 

RamRod

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After installing my sliders and UCP this weekend I noticed that one of my 6 month old replacement Rancho Shocks has already blown!!!

What kind of difference are you experiencing between the Rancho's and the new Bilsteins?

I am thinking I might place an order for these (and trim down the bumpstop bracket) if they are that night and day different... getting tired of replacing all these Rancho parts!
 

06 H3

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I love the difference on road, no more bouncy feeling. I will get back to you on an offroad report after this weekend. I will be at king of the hammers. I hope to run some trails too. Plenty of rock crawling and high speed stuff to test em out.

AMRG, if you can get me part #s I will look into it
 

06 H3

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Holy ****! After putting about 100 miles on these shocks all I can say is WOW!

They are perfect. Without a V8 or winch up front they may be a bit firm but for my setup they are perfect!

On the freeway if I was in the truck lane where that lane is all beat up and has potholes I would literally bounce before...so bad to where it would start to steer weird because the truck would sway and pull to one side. Now I went over the same lane and it's much more controlled and it even helps with steering. I could now let my hands off the wheel where before I had to grasp it.

I'm shocked how much shocks help the overall ride, including steering
 

Hans3T

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Have you figured out how to soften up the rear yet??



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06 H3

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The rear sprung over with rancho shocks are too soft IMO.

Dude you gotta make the leap. You will love your rig a lot more, ride quality much better then before
 

RamRod

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I'd love to increase the ride quality in all four corners! What kind of specs she I look for to track down a set of rears?

Would these work?

http://cart.bilsteinus.com/productsearch/25-187793

*Collapsed Length (IN): 14.87
*Extended Length (IN): 24.92

They are officially for 97-06 Jeep Wrangler TJ & Unlimited with 4-6" Lift.... But looks like they are the right fit



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06 H3

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I would say no for me personally but ride quality is totally subjective. While the extended and collapsed lengths are good the calving would probably be too soft. You have a T with a V8 that is probably close to double a TJ is in weight it would be way too soft. You could buy them
But ship em to be revalved to your needs
 

RamRod

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You have a T with a V8 that is probably close to double a TJ is in weight it would be way too soft. You could buy them
But ship em to be revalved to your needs

Right I forgot about valving I'll keep looking


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Hans3T

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Chris, when I finally cave and decide to go SOA I will fly you out and fan you with a palm frond while you work under Barney. :wink: But seriously... haha

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RamRod

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Bilstein Canada had a free shipping promo going on this weekend so I placed an order, looking forward to a better ride!
 

RamRod

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Just got an email from the distributor, they said that it will be 7-10 days until they have them in stock hen I should receive them 5 days later or so.. the count down is on!!
 
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