Bitter much?
So there's some newer guys that like to do new/different stuff to their trucks, or just have no idea what they even want to do with them? It's not like they're going "Oooooh, look at this chromey bit I picked up at Autozone!" Those are the other Hummer forums. I don't see that here really.
With the headlights, I don't think they are far off the mark personally. It's a switch to HID which, I'm sorry, ARE a far cry better than the halogens GM put on back in 2006. One guy put some multicolor halo's in there while they were at it? Good for them. Hitch up yer britches and move on instead of taking it as a personal affront or assuming that they are having to compensate for the size of their genitals (which is funny you are doing that considering that is an argument people outside of the Hummer crowd like to do to us in general... :roll
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A guy or two is maybe a bit outlandish with his mods and color matching everything? Whoopty doo. The dude still wheels it, even if he's not posting pics from every single time he goes out. Not everyone stops every five minutes to take pictures of their Hummer while out wheeling, usually it's because they went with friends that they even have pics. Otherwise they are in their Hummers driving them, not taking selfies. And without pics, any thread is worthless. :wink:
And LED light bars? Um, you realize a pretty large percentage of people on here HAVE them, right? So there are going to be questions about them or posts just showing them off (we're all wanting to seek recognition for our work no matter how small it may be). Whether or not they actually use them is not the point. Honestly I plan on getting one, but not because I do a ton of night time wheeling, but because I want to be prepared to be able to do so safely if the need or opportunity arises. Heck, I have taken my H3 offroad maybe 3-4 times since I bought it last May, I mostly use it to drive to work every day, so while I don't NEED 33" Duratracs, I like having them so that I CAN go offroad easily when I want to. Same with any other bits like a farm jack, jerry cans full of gas (or empty! maybe you want to have them on hand in case last minute you need to get out of town and want to take as much fuel with you as possible?), a 72 hour kit, a compass, etc. You won't ever use those things on a regular basis, but you have them in case you ever DO need them. Sure some of it is for looks, and if they want to do that, then fine, whatever. That is their decision and it's not going to hurt you that they made it.
Plus, it's been the holidays, and the middle of winter, and I don't think many of us have been doing a lot with our Hummers lately. So it's been quiet around here lately. Even SuperBuickGuy stopped posting updates on his FJ40 for a little bit. I was sad, I wanted to keep getting my fix of that awesomeness, but had to wait for the holidays to be over. :sigh:
And I don't think that any of the great offroad info has disappeared from the site, you just have to look for it. Why keep reposting stuff that has already been hashed out before? Plus this site is pretty narrowly dedicated to Hummers if you haven't noticed, there are numerous other sites out there that are broader in their coverage (pirate4x4 is one although that is more for the super hardcore rockcrawler crowd which seems to mainly consist of bitter and snobbish people. ih8mud and expedition portal are a couple other good ones I check out). There really isn't much on here that doesn't have to do strictly with Hummers. Which is fine by me, I can go other places for additional information that isn't specific to the model of truck I drive.
If you want to know about the H1, H2, or H3 specifically, this is the place mostly. But anything else? Forget it. You probably won't find it here, though there are people on here that could probably give you an answer if you asked. But we don't really have subforums that neatly divide that kind of stuff up to the level some other forums do and/or have anything close to the amount of information other forums have. And we are honestly a pretty specific, and small, target audience. There were only, what, 11,000 some odd civilian H1's ever made, 150,000 or so H2's, and I can't find a number for the H3's, but it wasn't all that many compared to other cars (maybe another 100,000?). That really isn't that many when you compare it to Toyota's, Nissans, or Jeeps in particluar! Those other brands you are talking decades and decades of hundreds of thousands of vehicles that are more iconic offroading vehicles WORLDWIDE than Hummers are. I mean right now there are only 15 registered members online, and that is probably the most that are ever actually active on here, though it might be as many as 30 regulars, maybe more. We've got a couple guys from Qatar, a token Russian, and a few loose Canadians rolling around, but most of us are from right here in the USA mainland. And I am fairly active on here as far as reading goes (and I post whenever I have something useful to say, or a witty comment, or a question about something someone did, or just updating my build log which I guess hasn't been super amazing to everyone else on here when you have people like Recon or Bebe :shame
, and I can see who the regulars are, and it really isn't that many. That's how it goes with such specific interests. And if you'll notice, it's the H3 forum in particular that is the busiest, hardly any new posts show up in the H1 or H2 sections, and the ones that do show up in the those sections are mostly "help this bit broke how do I fix it" kind of posts maybe once a week.
A similar thing happened with the Dodge Neon crowd, they were super popular for a while back in the late 90's and early to late 2000's, and the neons.org forum was a happening place with tons of awesome work going on (engine swaps, performance tuning, forced induction, suspension tuning, fab work, etc) but slowly it started to die off and it was just the die-hard fans left with the occasional kid who had no idea what he was doing or what he really wanted to do with their vehicle. I went on there several months ago and the activity had dropped way off, especially in the section for the first generation Neons (1995-99). And that forum was similar to this one in that it was mainly those that were actually serious about their vehicle rather than those that wanted to bling it out (or "rice it out" as the tuner's would say), there were other Neon forums that the ricers would hang out at.
So I would recommend you please dial it back a bit (your comments in the one thread about an H3 not starting were quite off the wall and honestly completely useless) because it really isn't helping. I'd rather see some noob asking silly questions without a clear goal of what engine he wants to swap into his vehicle even though he doesn't have the money for it, than a bunch of bitter snobs blasting anyone who left the chrome grill on their truck and wants to ask what are probably ridiculous questions (here's an idea, ignore them and move on). If I wanted that I would wander into the murky abyss that is pirate4x4.:corn:
I realize I'm pretty new here compared to people like you who joined a whole year before I did, but I picked this forum as my home for all things Hummer because it was the best forum I could find and was geared towards those of us that try to use our trucks the way they were meant to, and seemed to have decent people in it to boot. You talk about people getting chased off by too many posts about LED light bars and whatnot, but I would wager more would be chased away by attitudes such as your recent one. Maybe you're just venting without really thinking about what you are saying because something has happened in your life that is causing you pain, or maybe you're just a jerk. I don't really know. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just having a tough time right now for whatever reason so you're yelling at the kids to get off your lawn. I have been there many times myself (and is why I am a sysadmin now, it's in my job description to grumble about the developers and users and limit my interaction with people). But I refrain from doing it on the internet, especially in a forum that I want to keep nice.
And maybe I am overreacting with this reply, but I hate seeing this kind of behavior. It's hard to find places on the internet that aren't overrun by a bunch of self righteous, bitter, snobbish, trollish, mean people who have no problem hiding behind fake names and their keyboards (I pretty much never use anything other than JPaul for my screen name on forums, it's a personal choice because I'd prefer people know who I am and it helps keep me honest. I realize others like having nicknames or whatever and that's totally fine, but don't expect me to like calling them by it). So when I can find places that aren't like that (like this forum, it's pretty darn civil here), I get pretty upset when I see that kind of behavior appear on them.
And I'm sure that one or more things I have written here will be taken the wrong way, and that's just how the written word rolls. Don't think that I don't like you Woodtick, you've otherwise been a seemingly nice guy on this forum. I'd love to keep seeing that side of you, rather than this more recent outburst I've seen from you today. So, yeah, that's that. (Akward man hug, then hands Woodtick a Snickers bar)
