Yep, and I'm old school. I don't want the a/c on unless I make it come on. If you had the defrost on (without the a/c) and you have the windows start fogging you can just hit the little a/c button for that dry air. Easy. However, if you are living by the coast running the defrost with the a/c and it's humid you will fog the OUTSIDE of the windows and then have to drive around with the wipers on to be able to see. To fix THAT you have to run the heater. Why I need to go through all that BS is beyond me. One other gripe, is that if it is in the low 70's and you hit the defroster then not only does the outside of your windshield fog up requiring you to use the wipers like an idiot when it's sunny outside, but you also freeze yourself out because the a/c is cooling off the inside. So now I have to turn on my wipers on a humid, warm, sunny, summer day and look like a goober wearing a jacket in my truck so I don't freeze just because someone took common sense away from me.